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The take-out of a 90 cut down to any angle

Short answer

Take-out = the 90's center-to-end × tan(angle ÷ 2). A 2 inch 90 LR has a 3 inch center-to-end, so cut down to 22.5 degrees it takes out 3 × tan 11.25° = 0.597 inch, about 5/8. Cut down to 45, it takes out 3 × tan 22.5° = 1.243 inch, about 1 1/4.

Factory fittings come in 90s and 45s. For a 22.5, a 30, a 60, or the odd angle a setback forces on you, the usual move is to cut a 90 down. The cut fitting is shorter, and its center moves, so it needs its own take-out.

A 90 degree elbow cut down to 45 degrees: the new take-out is the 90's center-to-end times tan of 22.5 degrees new take-out = R × tan(θ/2) cut line cut off
Cutting a 90 down to 45 here. The kept part bends 45 degrees, and its new center sits closer to the welding end, so the take-out shrinks from R to R × tan 22.5° (0.4142 R).

Why it is the tangent of half the angle

A long radius 90's center-to-end equals its bend radius R, because tan 45° = 1. The fitting's center is the point where the tangents at its two ends cross. When you keep only θ degrees of the bend, the tangent at the new cut end crosses the tangent at the welding end at a distance R × tan(θ ÷ 2) from that end. That distance is the new take-out, the same at both ends of the cut fitting.

Factors for the common angles

Multiply the 90's center-to-end by the factor. For long radius 90s, that is 1.5 × the pipe size × the factor; for short radius, 1 × the size × the factor.

Take-out of a 90 LR butt-weld elbow cut down to each angle, nearest 1/16 inch (90 LR center-to-end × tan of half the angle). Default values. Check your fittings.
Pipe size90 LR11.25°22.5°30°45°60°
Factor1.00000.09850.19890.26790.41420.5774
1/2 in1 1/2"1/8"5/16"3/8"5/8"7/8"
3/4 in1 1/8"1/8"1/4"5/16"7/16"5/8"
1 in1 1/2"1/8"5/16"3/8"5/8"7/8"
1 1/4 in1 7/8"3/16"3/8"1/2"3/4"1 1/16"
1 1/2 in2 1/4"1/4"7/16"5/8"15/16"1 5/16"
2 in3"5/16"5/8"13/16"1 1/4"1 3/4"
2 1/2 in3 3/4"3/8"3/4"1"1 9/16"2 3/16"
3 in4 1/2"7/16"7/8"1 3/16"1 7/8"2 5/8"
3 1/2 in5 1/4"1/2"1 1/16"1 7/16"2 3/16"3"
4 in6"9/16"1 3/16"1 5/8"2 1/2"3 7/16"
5 in7 1/2"3/4"1 1/2"2"3 1/8"4 5/16"
6 in9"7/8"1 13/16"2 7/16"3 3/4"5 3/16"
8 in12"1 3/16"2 3/8"3 3/16"5"6 15/16"
10 in15"1 1/2"3"4"6 3/16"8 11/16"
12 in18"1 3/4"3 9/16"4 13/16"7 7/16"10 3/8"

Steps

  1. Find the 90's center-to-end

    From the take-out chart or by measuring the fitting.

  2. Halve the angle you need

    22.5 degrees becomes 11.25.

  3. Multiply by the tangent of the half angle

    That is the take-out of the cut fitting at each end.

  4. Use it in the cut length

    Travel − 2 × this take-out − 2 × gap, as in take-outs and cut length.

Worked examples

12 inch offset with 2 inch 90 LRs cut to 22.5

Take-out = 3 × tan 11.25° = 0.5967 Travel = 12 × 2.6131 = 31.3575 Cut = 31.3575 − 2 × 0.5967 − 2 × 0.125 = 29.9140, marked 29 15/16

4 inch 90 LR cut to 30

Take-out = 6 × tan 15° = 1.6077, marked 1 5/8

Where to mark the cut

The cut runs through the center of the bend, so it is longer on the outside (heel) than on the inside (throat). Measured along the fitting from the welding end, with θ in radians (degrees × 0.01745):

Heel = (R + OD ÷ 2) × θ Throat = (R − OD ÷ 2) × θ Centerline = R × θ

For a 2 inch 90 LR (R = 3, outside diameter 2.375) kept at 22.5 degrees, θ = 0.3927: the heel mark is 1.644 (1 5/8) from the end, the throat mark 0.712 (11/16), and the centerline marks on each side 1.178 (1 3/16). Join the four marks around the fitting for the cut line, and prepare the cut end for welding the way your procedure calls for.

Common mistakes

  • Tangent of the full angle. tan 22.5° is 0.414; tan 11.25° is 0.199. Using the full angle doubles the take-out.
  • Using the factory 45 value for a cut 90. On 1 inch pipe a factory 45 LR takes out 7/8 and a 90 cut to 45 takes out about 5/8.
  • Measuring the heel and throat from the wrong end. Measure from the end you keep, the welding end.
  • Forgetting the gap. A cut fitting still gets a root gap at each butt weld.

Related questions

Built into the app

At any angle other than 45, FitUp's offset tools use exactly this: a 90 LR or 90 SR cut to the angle, with the take-out worked out as center-to-end × tan(angle ÷ 2) and shown under the cut. Those angles are part of Pro. The free web calculator does it too.

Default values. Check your fittings. Verify measurements before cutting.